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mandarinstudent -

I'm just a bit curious about this subject. I know that the foreign guys here in China have no
problem in the "companionship" category, but what do the females do? Most white girls I know tell
me they just aren't into asian dudes. That only leaves the other foreigners in China as an option.
If you are not in Beijing or Shanghai, there aren't so many foreigners. Alot are ugly, fat, or old
and the ones that are decently attractive are either swimming in a sea of Chinese poontang or
married/engaged already. Where does that leave the female foreigner? Do they come to China knowing
that they will most likely be celibate for the time they are here? They are OK with that? Do they
convert and start dating asian guys? I haven't gotten to know my female co-workers well enough to
ask, so I'm hoping for a few female responses here. What do you do???



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roddy -

Tell you what. Rather than all the guys speculating and generally lowering the tone (xichg, please
. . .), why don't we actually wait for those female responses . . .










mandarinstudent -



Quote:

Tell you what. Rather than all the guys speculating and generally lowering the tone (xichg, please
. . .), why don't we actually wait for those female responses . . .

Thank you roddy. I didn't write this to knock the "man sluts" in China or start a debate
concerning "asian men vs. western men". I just want to know what the female foreigners do in China
for relationships and such. I'm not knocking asian guys, but most white girls I knew back in the
US didnt go for asians. Do the foreign girls just come to China with the mindset of, "Ok, Im going
to China and there will be no relationships or even a hope for sex during the time I am there," do
they convert and date Chinese guys, or do they just do what xichg says?










Kiwijes -

Ha ha ha. Loving this post.
Ok, I'm female, 25 and going to China to live in an area with hardly any other westerners. I dont
expect to be getting any action whilst there eh! But to whoever posted the "bring a vibrator"
thing - I'd be so scared of getting snapped in customs! I think i'm just going to have to go cold
turkey. I'll be fine.

Now I have just been visiting friends in Japan who teach English there. The Japanese girls all
flock to the western guys (including the hidiously ugly guys who wouldnt have a chance of getting
a date back home) so I expect China to be similar in that respect. Why would a western guy go for
a western girl when he can "sample" the chinese "culture" a lot more!? He's in China to learn
right? Ha ha.

The moral of the story is, if you are desperate for a root, and you don't like Asian guys - go and
teach English in another country! Your chances wont be high of finding a westerner, especially in
the smaller cities! If you're really hanging out, take your holidays in highly populated tourist
areas!










mandarinstudent -

Ok, we finally have an answer from a female...accept celibacy. Any other foreign females care to
weigh in?










iluvdofu -

LOL... i'm sooo glad i found this forum.

ok, i'm a western female in this predicament. i arrived into bj (pun intended ;-)) about a week
ago and have been thinking the exact same thing - what the hell am i gonna do over the next few
months? i've hardly been given more than a passing glance, and i know it's only cuz i'm recognized
as a foreigner. dayum! what's a girl supposed to do?

kiwijes, i considered the same. however, i figured i would suffer much greater risk and harm in
leaving my "personal massager" at home. as it is, i'm having a hard enough time quitting smoking!
i got needs!!

daxia, let's not forget to note that for those that are less than plentiful, there are certainly
other ways to please women - which many women prefer. i totally agree with you... it's not such a
sexy feeling to know i might accidentally smother my guy.

thank you mandarinstudent for posting this topic. and for all those western boys who can't get any
back home - live it up playahs! ;-)










roddy -



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so I'm hoping for a few female responses here.



Quote:

why don't we actually wait for those female responses . . .

I'm serious, let's actually give this a shot. If you're not female, or you're not posting an
intelligent response to something from a female, don't post. Otherwise we're going to wind up with
pages of daxia type speculation. I also just removed a 'how to make a vibrator' post. . .


Quote:

BTW, xichg's comment shows some of the utter frustration you will get into in China. My full
understanding is with her.

Xichg is Chinese, and if I remember correctly male. That was sarcasm, not frustration.










mandarinstudent -



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Haha, This subject is soooooo taboo and I am sure I will be flamed for this but let's be honest.

It's all a matter of SiZe, and I dont just mean the place youre all thinking about. Asian guys are
in general allot shorter and skinnier then western men, and western women are in general allot
taller and (sorry for this) fatter then Chinese women (and men).

So, would a Chinese man be willing to be together with a women thats as tall or even taller than
him self and weighs 30% more than he does ?

Would a western women be willing to be together with a guy that constantly makes her feel big and
clumpsy, when we all know that it is the opposite of what all girls likes to feel ?

Women wants to feel small, and men wants to feel big. Women likes to feel that they are safe and
men like to feel that they can protect their women. Do the maths and you will have your answer.

Now, lets look at it the other way around. Would a Chinese girl be willing to be together with a
tall and rich guy (we all know that westerners are considered to be rich in China), that perhaps
will take her to a foreign country and totally change her life. YES !

Would a western guy be willing to be together with a small and pretty girl(we all know that
chinese girls are considered to be pretty in the west), of whoose he can change the life of and
give her things that she never had. HELL YES !

(There are ofcourse exeptions to this, and I have seen one or two western girls with chinese men
during my 3 years in China, but compared to the hundreds of western men who has a Chinese girl by
his side, its nothing.)

I am sorry if I offended anyone with this, but we all know its true. The thing is that allot of
people does not dare to say it out loud.

Again, the above post is in the wrong thread. We are not discussing WHY white women do/don't sleep
with asian men or WHY white men do/don't sleep with Chinese girls. I was simply trying to get a
few first hand experiences from FEMALE FOREIGNERS in China concerning their dating life (or lack
of), how they deal with it, or what options they feel they have. That is it. That is all. We don't
need an analysis of why you think things are the way they are. Please start another thread if you
feel the need to analyze. Thank you.










roddy -

Removed all the non-relevant responses, will perhaps split them off into another discussion later.
To reiterate, the OP is looking for

Quote:

first hand experiences from FEMALE FOREIGNERS

If that's not you, . Those of you who want to tell us what your roommate / friend / auntie told
you - invite them to join the forum, they can tell us themselves.

I'm not normally this anal about keeping things on topic but it's an interesting question and also
one that goes off-topic very quickly - onto dildos and racism so far, so I'm being a bit more
proactive than usual. Contact form or pm if you have any comments.










芳芳 -

This is surely an interesting question and thanks to the access restriction, maybe it won't
finally fall into racist and sexist prejudices as it did with the "interracial mariage" topic.
Besides i have some time to answer so why not give a contribution.

When I was in China, before leaving, i never had in mind this would be a "period of celibate" or
never thought "great, i'm going to date exotic"... I just didn't thought a second about a dating
question (just my dad laugh and said "bring us back a nice chinese guy" because as he saw i was so
interested in china he thought it must be an interest in every aspect of china -including chinese
guys. ).

On the other hand I am not a person with a "precise kind of guy", i don't have any prejudice in
dating (or talking to) asian or european or african or martian guy, but (unlike many girls are
pretended to be by many posters here, and I suspect a little resentment against female gender from
them) the "big and strong -full of muscles bêêê- and protective and
full-of-money-who-show-off-with-it" guy is really not my kind. And I find asian specific body
features rather cute (like tiny nose, asian eyes and round face features, I think that both for
male and female asian - not that I'm into girls nevertheless)...

So, when in China, I just have the same attitude toward guy as in France or elsewhere(ok,
communication is very different because of the language an cultural stuff), they don't have more
or less chance than foreigners whith me (and conversely as it seems).

Voilà, hopes it gives some clues and discourage certain people from hazardous generalisations.
This was just my case.
To finish i'll say i liked the post of Heifeng showing things just how they are with no great
"scientifical theory of whould should date what and why".












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